He was elected President by winning the majority of the electoral collage votes AND the poplar vote. So no that would make him a legitimate president.
All of this hullabaloo about him being from another country has already been proven way before he ever took office. Do you really think that McCain and Bush would have let him take office and loose control of the country if they had such an easy out as that? Do you have that little faith in the Republicans and their ability to uphold the law with necessary and to protect this country that you assume they just stepped aside on such a huge issue as whether or not Obama is an illegal president? He stoped showing it becuse no matter how many times he did or now many officals agreed the questions still kept coming as some point you have to say the case is closed. Once it came before the high court and they said he was good...the case was closed.
What you should be asking is what do those who continue to press this issue gain or are out to gain by trying to make this an issue? How far would someone with Extreme views go if they truly felt he was not a legitimate president? How easily could they justify their violent and irrational acts if they felt they were doing our country a serves?
I have personally suspected a few things but there is no proof.
1. His birth certificate has never been produced to my satisfaction.
2. I feel that Acorn and a few other groups were responsible for major league voter fraud and I have wondered.
3. Campaign contributions under $25 didn't have to be reported, I heard tons of people from outside the USA, specifically from Kenya, were doing these credit card donations. This amounted millions of illegally obtained campaign dollars.
I'm sure there are a few other things, but those are the three that come to my mind.
We truly need to improve controls in this country. If there is one good outcome from this horror show of a presidency, I hope we can improve controls over these three things. No birth certificate = not on the ballot. No donations from outside this country, period, and all need to be reported. I also think that voting needs to be cleaned up, proper photo i.d. and maybe fingerprint scanning.
It's sad but typical the dems don't have the guts to want to know the truth. It appears they would rather risk the destruction of our country than demand the truth. A good question would be why do they support the hiding of information. Maybe the time of us being united as a country has passed and we would be better off splitting the country.
According to our legal institutions he is recognized as the President of the United States. Anyone who questions that is irrelevant... his presidency has been ratified by an actual national election and any legal challenge to that has been soundly defeated even in the highest court. Get over it. Your personal opinion is irrelevant in light of that. If you do not accept the State of Hawaii's record of his birth then oh well... think whatever you want but Obama has no obligation to satisfy you in this matter.
Considering the legality of his Presidency has been debunked numerous times. I'm going to say no. Playing the devils advocate. If he is then what's that say about the way elections are held. The Electoral College has the last say in any election. And if they let him win then it only goes to show the Electoral College needs to be abolished.
You know at this point people just don't know anymore. So many people are claiming that he is,and many say it is not so. Sure would like to know the truth myself. I do know one of the qualifications for President of the U.S. is your a legal citizen born here. So,if there is truth to this,why is he in office? Why is it not spoken about at all and last but not least,why would he not come forward to show/prove to the country this is not true. All very odd,and nobody should be wondering either,yet they are.
Yes hey Rash Blimpo all he has to do is show his birth certificate. Why is it do you think that he won't? You want to bullshit about facts here's a fact Nobama refuses to show his birth certificate. ducky aka Mr.Duck of course one Dr. from Hawaii said he saw Obamas BS certificate if it was real Obama would give it to the press so everyone could see it but once again he won't why is that.
I would like to know why so many foreign donations to his campaign came in.
HSBC sues accused Democratic fund-raiser in New York Reuters
NEW YORK, Sept 18 (Reuters) - A fund-raiser for Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and other Democrats who was charged last month with defrauding Citigroup Inc (C.N) is being sued by HSBC (HSBA.L) for deceiving it into lending him $100 million.
The lawsuit filed in New York State Supreme Court in early September accused private equity firm head Hassan Nemazee, 59, of engaging in an elaborate scheme to make HSBC Bank USA believe that its loan was secured by collateral in the form of U.S. Treasury Notes when it was not.
Nemazee, who sits on the board of the Iranian American Political Action Committee, typically donates more than $100,000 annually to Democratic political candidates.
He is listed as one of the top "bundlers" of contributions to Obama's 2008 presidential campaign, according to OpenSecrets,org, a website run by the Center for Responsive Politics research group.
Nemazee was charged on Aug. 25 of one count of bank fraud for seeking a $74 million loan from Citigroup's banking unit under false pretenses.
He was arrested at Newark Liberty International Airport in New Jersey on Aug. 23 as he was checking in for a flight to Italy, according to court papers.
U.S. prosecutors accused him on Sept. 2 of defrauding other banks. In a letter to a magistrate judge in Manhattan federal court, prosecutors said he repaid the Citibank loan by defrauding another bank, but did not identify it.
The bank was HSBC, according to the civil lawsuit. The bank sued Nemazee for breach of contract and fraud. Nemazee's lawyers could not immediately be reached for comment.
The HSBC lawsuit, dated Sept. 2, said that "to accomplish the fraud, Nemazee represented to HSBC that he had $89 million in Treasury Notes, with a current market value of more than $125 million, in a specified brokerage firm account; submitted a supposed agreement from the brokerage firm with forged signatures, false addresses, and false telephone numbers; used a mail drop; and submitted fabricated brokerage statements."
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He was elected President by winning the majority of the electoral collage votes AND the poplar vote. So no that would make him a legitimate president.
All of this hullabaloo about him being from another country has already been proven way before he ever took office. Do you really think that McCain and Bush would have let him take office and loose control of the country if they had such an easy out as that? Do you have that little faith in the Republicans and their ability to uphold the law with necessary and to protect this country that you assume they just stepped aside on such a huge issue as whether or not Obama is an illegal president? He stoped showing it becuse no matter how many times he did or now many officals agreed the questions still kept coming as some point you have to say the case is closed. Once it came before the high court and they said he was good...the case was closed.
What you should be asking is what do those who continue to press this issue gain or are out to gain by trying to make this an issue? How far would someone with Extreme views go if they truly felt he was not a legitimate president? How easily could they justify their violent and irrational acts if they felt they were doing our country a serves?
I have personally suspected a few things but there is no proof.
1. His birth certificate has never been produced to my satisfaction.
2. I feel that Acorn and a few other groups were responsible for major league voter fraud and I have wondered.
3. Campaign contributions under $25 didn't have to be reported, I heard tons of people from outside the USA, specifically from Kenya, were doing these credit card donations. This amounted millions of illegally obtained campaign dollars.
I'm sure there are a few other things, but those are the three that come to my mind.
We truly need to improve controls in this country. If there is one good outcome from this horror show of a presidency, I hope we can improve controls over these three things. No birth certificate = not on the ballot. No donations from outside this country, period, and all need to be reported. I also think that voting needs to be cleaned up, proper photo i.d. and maybe fingerprint scanning.
I'm sad not to trust the system, but I do not.
It's sad but typical the dems don't have the guts to want to know the truth. It appears they would rather risk the destruction of our country than demand the truth. A good question would be why do they support the hiding of information. Maybe the time of us being united as a country has passed and we would be better off splitting the country.
According to our legal institutions he is recognized as the President of the United States. Anyone who questions that is irrelevant... his presidency has been ratified by an actual national election and any legal challenge to that has been soundly defeated even in the highest court. Get over it. Your personal opinion is irrelevant in light of that. If you do not accept the State of Hawaii's record of his birth then oh well... think whatever you want but Obama has no obligation to satisfy you in this matter.
Considering the legality of his Presidency has been debunked numerous times. I'm going to say no. Playing the devils advocate. If he is then what's that say about the way elections are held. The Electoral College has the last say in any election. And if they let him win then it only goes to show the Electoral College needs to be abolished.
You know at this point people just don't know anymore. So many people are claiming that he is,and many say it is not so. Sure would like to know the truth myself. I do know one of the qualifications for President of the U.S. is your a legal citizen born here. So,if there is truth to this,why is he in office? Why is it not spoken about at all and last but not least,why would he not come forward to show/prove to the country this is not true. All very odd,and nobody should be wondering either,yet they are.
Yes hey Rash Blimpo all he has to do is show his birth certificate. Why is it do you think that he won't? You want to bullshit about facts here's a fact Nobama refuses to show his birth certificate. ducky aka Mr.Duck of course one Dr. from Hawaii said he saw Obamas BS certificate if it was real Obama would give it to the press so everyone could see it but once again he won't why is that.
of course he is..but its only the fright winged talk show hosts that acknowledge this...its like WAY over all the proper authorities heads
No
your question leads me to ask can you, prove your not a space alien?
Probably in more ways than we think.
I would like to know why so many foreign donations to his campaign came in.
HSBC sues accused Democratic fund-raiser in New York Reuters
NEW YORK, Sept 18 (Reuters) - A fund-raiser for Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and other Democrats who was charged last month with defrauding Citigroup Inc (C.N) is being sued by HSBC (HSBA.L) for deceiving it into lending him $100 million.
The lawsuit filed in New York State Supreme Court in early September accused private equity firm head Hassan Nemazee, 59, of engaging in an elaborate scheme to make HSBC Bank USA believe that its loan was secured by collateral in the form of U.S. Treasury Notes when it was not.
Nemazee, who sits on the board of the Iranian American Political Action Committee, typically donates more than $100,000 annually to Democratic political candidates.
He is listed as one of the top "bundlers" of contributions to Obama's 2008 presidential campaign, according to OpenSecrets,org, a website run by the Center for Responsive Politics research group.
Nemazee was charged on Aug. 25 of one count of bank fraud for seeking a $74 million loan from Citigroup's banking unit under false pretenses.
He was arrested at Newark Liberty International Airport in New Jersey on Aug. 23 as he was checking in for a flight to Italy, according to court papers.
U.S. prosecutors accused him on Sept. 2 of defrauding other banks. In a letter to a magistrate judge in Manhattan federal court, prosecutors said he repaid the Citibank loan by defrauding another bank, but did not identify it.
The bank was HSBC, according to the civil lawsuit. The bank sued Nemazee for breach of contract and fraud. Nemazee's lawyers could not immediately be reached for comment.
The HSBC lawsuit, dated Sept. 2, said that "to accomplish the fraud, Nemazee represented to HSBC that he had $89 million in Treasury Notes, with a current market value of more than $125 million, in a specified brokerage firm account; submitted a supposed agreement from the brokerage firm with forged signatures, false addresses, and false telephone numbers; used a mail drop; and submitted fabricated brokerage statements."