Correction, Please.

Science cannot prove or disprove anything. Science is a system of thought. A tool. A way a thinking mind can analyze whatever.

True, the thinking mind can look at what evidence it unearths while using his mind and draw certain conclusions.

What happens then? That depends on whatever bias is built into the thinking mind.

Many are conditioned to think only in preset patterns. Others reject evidence because the evidence is forbidden to the mind. How is that?

Some who think they follow science, when faced with insurmountable evidence leading to the existence of a creator have said, and I quote, "special creation is unthinkable".

That is the statement of a biased mind. Maybe that is where the term PHD comes from (Piled Higher & Deeper)

When I was an atheist I found I had been conditioned to reject evidence contrary to accepted thought. Then using science and math as tools, I reexamined evidence. The math said evolution is so improbable as to be a ridiculous assumption. If 1 X 10 ^40:1 is not ridiculously improbable, I don't know what is.

So then, why do not otherwise ordinary researchers come to the same conclusion? That is a very good question? Can someone show me a real answer?

So let me get this straight:

1) Creationism/ID are based on God existing. Therefore, God exists!

2) The universe is perfectly designed (hah!), therefore God exists!

3) I've heard of a particle that was (unfortunately) named the God particle. Therefore God exists!

4) Science can't prove God DOESN'T exist, therefore God exists!

5) I don't understand Evolution or Cosmology. Therefore, God exists!

6) I'm afraid of God, so I'd better believe in him (since he's clearly the ONLY possible God, and there's never been any other religions in the history of the world). Therefore, God exists!

Okay...

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_logic . Seriously, that's all I'm going to say on that one. If you cannot see the idiocy in using this kind of argument... there is no hope for you.

2) So cancer, the recurrent laryngeal nerve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurrent_laryngeal_n... ), the fact that we could be wiped out at any time by an errant asteroid or a gamma ray burst from a nearby star... are all evidence that the universe is perfectly designed? I suggest you learn a little more about science, biology, and cosmology before you start making wide-eyed claims like this.

3) This is an unfortunate side-effect of whoever named the particle naming it that. It's called the "God" particle because it promised to explain a lot of missing "pieces" of modern quantum physics. Specifically, it explains why certain particles have mass, and why the "concept" of mass at the subatomic level even exists. I think YOU might need to wake up, because you seem to think referencing a particle that has nothing empirically to do with a deity, just because it has "God" in the name, is somehow proof of the existence of that deity.

4) Right. We also can't prove that there isn't a 10ft tall, weightless, invisible, intangible rabbit perched on your head right now. So it MUST exist!

5) http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignoran... . Your personal lack of understanding about how biology and cosmology work is not valid evidence for the invalidity of these theories. Even if it WERE, that in and of itself would not be valid evidence for Creationism. Disproving one theory != proving another.

6) See Pascal's Wager: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager

First, that wasn't a question it was a series of statements.

Second, you're entirely incorrect: The number of variables is tiny when compared to the amount of time involved, thus there is no reason to assume any kind of intelligent entity involved. If you actually took a few minutes to find out what "the god particle" refers to, you would learn that it has nothing to do with any actual god, christian or otherwise.

Chris, I'm sorry. You seem like a reasonably intelligent fellow, but the fact is that there are plausible, reasonable explanations for everything you mentioned that don't happen to include the existence of a supernatural super-being that creates universes on a whim in it's spare time.

First of all, let me point out that the word "science" is used nowadays to refer to the physical sciences. But there are the spiritual sciences, something that most people are not aware of, and something that many physical scientists will scoff at (which ironically, is unscientific). If one wants proof of God's existence, then it's a "simple" matter of using the ancient methods. To begin with, modern so-called "science" these days has naively decided, with nothing to back it up, that only the physical is real. It will tell you, again naively, that "there is no evidence for anything beyond the physical." That's interesting being that the evidence is overwhelming but modern "science" has chosen to ignore it. Why? Because if they were to look too closely and find out the truth, then all the books would have to be re-written. If a physical scientist were to tell me that he or she wanted to find out if God were real, I'd say, "First find the existence of the non-physical," and I'd have them practice meditation and "pranayam" (life-force control) and that would take some time. Meditation and pranayam, practiced correctly, will take one to a higher level of perception. The proof of that is in the doing. But they (those with a heavy investment in the notion that only the physical is real) won't do it. They won't do the necessary science in order to find the answer that would prove them wrong - yet they'll still refer to themselves as "scientists." So you see the problem. Meditation, like pranayam, has more than one level to it - those who sincerely practice those will find answers. That is, they will come to know beyond-the-physical states, while the physical scientists will go droning on, "That's all an illusion." But of course, they won't investigate. So the real problem isn't simply that modern "science" doesn't know of such things - it's that they do not want to know. They don't want to hear about it. Atheists continue on with their empty war-cry, "God doesn't exist!" and Christianity will go on threatening non-believers with "eternal damnation," but there is also a sane approach to this, and I already mentioned it. What comes to light, however, is that people do not want to change - they like being where they're at. An atheist isn't open to proving God's existence to him/her self. They don't care. Life without God is fine with them. So they're not going to be motivated. As for Christians, they don't investigate anything at all. Like the atheists, they're just believers - not knowers. It is up to the individual to go on that search for him- or herself, to try and find out if God is real. But it's a search that one will usually have to go on alone ... "official" science isn't interested, and the lay atheist community is full of comments but none of them have been thought out very well, if at all ...

Nonsense like "intelligent design" already includes claims about a "god." You don't need to add one.

No "god" concept or claim is "proven" in any way. In fact, there's no evidence of any kind to show there's any such thing, and a great deal of evidence showing human-claimed "gods" do NOT, in fact, exist.

Finally, your arguments from personal ignorance incredulity are fallacious and worthless. That you (or even anyone else) can't explain something, and think there's no way it could exist without a magical super-being god thing, is not evidence of a "god." It's only evidence of your personal ignorance and incredulity.

" try to disprove something that is right in front of your FACE!!!! Wake Up!!! "

There's no "god" right in front of my face. And I don't fall for fallacious and worthless arguments. It's a shame you do.

It seems you just don't understand probability and the absolute scope of the Universe.

Given 13.5 billion years and the random associations of 4.5 x 10^64 kg of mass, just about anything can happen, no direction and no design required.

I think to believe the truth about the trinity was very difficult in the brain to reason with what is in the Bible itself

In other words, you don't understand a thing about science and decided it's easier to just believe a magic man in the sky did everything than to actually learn something.

I agree with you..

When asked to describe my thoughts on GOD and Religion my train of thought led me right to gravity. . .

You can’t see gravity, You can’t taste it, I just know one thing for certain, that it exists.

The mystery's of faith an GOD are beyond human comprehension

Faith concerns questions which cannot be settled by evidence.

I feel bad that if someone does not have faith they would want others to agree with them!

How can the universe create itself out of nothingness? Given the fact that the universe began to exist, it must have had a “cause” that originated it.Doesn't it make more sense to assume the existence of a Creation. The question is tricky because it sneaks in the false assumption that GOD came from somewhere and then asks where that might be. The answer is that the question does not even make sense. It is like asking, “What does blue smell like?” Blue is not in the category of things that have a smell, so the question itself is flawed. In the same way, GOD is not in the category of things that are created or caused. GOD is uncaused and uncreated—He simply exists.

We know that from nothing, nothing comes. So, if there were ever a time when there was absolutely nothing in existence, then nothing would have ever come into existence. But things do exist. Therefore, since there could never have been absolutely nothing, something had to have always been in existence. That ever-existing being is what we call GOD ,GOD is the un-caused Being that caused everything else to come into existence. God is the uncreated Creator who created the universe and everything in it.

The universe requires a cause because it had a beginning, GOD unlike the universe, had no beginning, so he doesn’t need a cause. Einstein’s theory of general relativity, which has much experimental support, shows that time is linked to matter and space. So time itself would have begun along with matter and space. Since GOD is the creator of the whole universe, he is the creator of time. Therefore He is not limited by the time dimension He created..@

Life without GOD is like an un- sharpened pencil it has no point..

You can't see the wind, but you know it is there because you can see what the wind is doing. You can know that the wind is there because you can feel it.GOD is like the wind, you can't see him

You've taken two ideas, creationism and intelligent design, and assumed they have some merit/substance.

Ok, lets get back to basics, before mixing in a deity lets take one of those ideas and run with it.

You first.