Women nowadays claim to want to be treated equal. Equal pay, equal opportunity, they are independent, they don't need men to take care of them, etc... I agree with them wholeheartedly. However, when push comes to shove, women expect men to do the heavy lifting and they uphold the double standards that benefit them. They want meals paid for, dates paid for, bills paid for vacations/trips paid for, gifts, etc... They want doors opened, they want the man to do all the driving and utilize his gas/take the risk of drinking and getting behind the wheel. I could go on and on.
Then if a guy is foolish enough to do all this crap for women, the women won't have the decency to say thank you or appreciate it. They just expect it and feel entitled to be treated like something special (like they have some sort of magic vagina).
I just want to know what makes a female have this sense of entitlement?
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Hi George. Missed you. Hope your travels were great.
You know I'm not like what you described above- we agree on double standards sucking.
I actually have been paid more than my male counterparts on the whole throughout my career. I negotiate better.
Equal opportunity is a myth. There is always going to be someone somewhere who's gonna screw people different than them over. Just need to learn how to deal with them in particular.
Heavy lifting? Where I live anything over 50 pounds is two PERSON work, legally. So, up to the individual how they want to deal with it.
Meals, dates, bills, vacations etc.- I have always paid my fair share. That's what my Mum taught me to do.
Doors opened? That is a people thing. No longer a gender thing.
Driving? Please....I had a 5.0 Mustang, decked out when I was single. I wasn't getting in someone elses car- I drove.
Manners are not gender specific. A please and a thank you are always the right thing to do.
...but, I DO have a magical vagina :)
Hi George,
I'm not that way. I opened afew doors today going into places for other men coming in right behind me. When I did date I always made sure he let me pay the tip if he paid the bill. Today I still do that when my husband takes out his wallet I say, "I'll pay the tip hon I have some cash" (I'm a good tipper). Not all women are like you say. One thing I do not like one bit is how one sided child support is. Men hardly ever get any child support money from women when they get the child But you better believe women sure as hellll make sure the men pay them money. Why do men get so dumped on with that?
Why do courts automatically hand over the child to the mother? What makes her so much better? I mean men love their children too. Some men are better parents but the courts have a blind eye when it comes to that.
Must be that magic vagina George! LOLOL
The women you are speaking of are golddiggers. They feel entitled because they are born beautiful and people have been treating them like they're special from the moment they were born.
Real women (like me) work for a living, pay bills, take care of our kids, give our husband's regular sex (I actually want it more than he does!). My husband and I pay the bills equally.
I live in the South, and it is common courtesy for a Gentleman to open the door for a Lady. I acknowledge it when a man does this for me.
I tell my husband "thank you" for even the simplest things like paying rent or taking out the trash. I do not want him to feel used or unappreciated.
He tells me "thank you" when I cook him a home cooked meal, do his laundry, go to his kids games with him, buy him his favorite snacks, and put random love notes in his lunch box.
We've been married almost 3 years, but it feels like 13 with ex-spouses and 3 kids between us.
He takes me out on a date every month or two, and I usually end up driving home because he's so tired. Occasionally I surprise him and treat him to lunch. Men like to be romanced too!
Ouch George! It sounds as if in general? You have a very low opinion of women...Then again? It takes a real man to separate the GIRLS from the REAL WOMEN! -And I don't know what KIND of women you hang around with, but none in my circle are as you describe. I'm a widow, but when married? I worked from the start - often paid for many of our dates just as point of fairness. You're right. There is no substitute for having a strong man around - but not just physically, one who is good in communicating and willing to work together in paying the bills, doing the yardwork. Yes, I could "go on and on" too. While I will definitely agree there is an element of selfishness afoot as well as self-centeredness and materialism with MANY a young woman today, once again? It's about separating the GIRLS from the REAL WOMEN - and my women friends don't reek of the negativity you spew here whatsoever...We cook, clean, run the house, do the errands, rear up children AND work full time. So I don't know who you associate with? -But it seems to me you need a change of scenery and attitude and grace in the self-entitled women YOU associate with.
I've worked since I was 16. Always paid my own way. Put my husband through college TWICE about 20 years apart...and I'd do it all again if I could...Just a great human being who treated me so wonderfully I can't even begin to touch on his ability to love. Then again? I know how grateful he was to me for so much. You see George? That's what it's truly, all about: two people who lay a foundation of mutual love; respect and trust - who BOTH work for the things they want and the LIFE they want together. Trust me? It doesn't get ANY better than that...
I have to wonder, what you attract? -And what you're attracted too...Hm. If it's just about a pretty face and a nice set of boobs??? You may indeed, "reap" what you "sow" in regard to the caliber (or lack thereof) that enter your life...
Grace (forever and always? Overpressure)
4 once i agree with u - I've been sayin that for 10 yrs! they scream equality when it comes to beneficial things but when it comes to the crap they yell "weaker sex"
@ alwayswvgirl - I am glad u say thanx - I open doors for women all the time and get a thnx 40% of the time
Get married and you'll find much of this "drama" goes away. Most married women (or those in a long-term committed relationship) that I know abandon that "entitlement" for reality. When my husband and I go out he usually pays (his choice). But since we pool our paychecks into joint accounts, who's really paying? Even gifts are paid for from joint accounts. My husband opens doors in public (again, his choice), but for the most part car doors, house doors, etc., are opened by the first person to reach them-- and then held for the other person. As far as driving, he drives because it's a male ego thing-- UNLESS there's drinking. Then the designated driver (usually me) drives. We don't drink and drive.
Yes, there are some things my husband does for me and some I do for him. They're not expected and they're appreciated. It's part of caring and nurturing.
As far as the thank yous for opening doors, I posted a question on here not long ago about this very thing-- how people simply don't bother with common courtesies anymore. I'm that person who thanks people for stopping at crosswalks, waves when someone lets me in traffic, and says thank you when someone has shown me a courtesy.
I don't buy the magic vagina theory. Like any other commodity, it's only as valuable as its scarcity and it's value to the individual. Since most guys can get "it" anywhere, it doesn't do much good to believe yours is worth getting all high and mighty for.
I dont think its fair to generalize women like that. I expect my husband to open doors, pay the bills, drive the cars, cut the wood, take out the trash, ect. But in return I also know he expects me to cook his breakfast, dinner and lunch daily, clean the house, raise the kids, keep up on laundry, keep up with my physical appearance, ect. Women DO expect men to do things for them, but men also expect women to do things for them too. I believe in equal rights, I like being able to vote and wear pants and make an income. But I also believe that men should have manners, like opening doors and paying for a night out. And while the man is opening that door the women should be stepping inside waiting to follow him, its his right as a man to lead her. And when he is paying for their meal he should also have the right to order his meal first, drink if he wants, and talk about whatever he wants. Thats my rant :-).
Hahaha! Magic Vagina. That is hilarious. I think you answered your own question.
I think you nailed it George. It's the magic "****" thing. DM even verified it. I knew they were magic! I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!
I knew they were magic!!!!!! I feel so enlightened right now!
Why do you ask this everyday?