Women nowadays claim to want to be treated equal. Equal pay, equal opportunity, they are independent, they don't need men to take care of them, etc... I agree with them wholeheartedly. However, when push comes to shove, women expect men to do the heavy lifting and they uphold the double standards that benefit them. They want meals paid for, dates paid for, bills paid for vacations/trips paid for, gifts, etc... They want doors opened, they want the man to do all the driving and utilize his gas/take the risk of drinking and getting behind the wheel. I could go on and on.
Then if a guy is foolish enough to do all this crap for women, the women won't have the decency to say thank you or appreciate it. They just expect it and feel entitled to be treated like something special (like they have some sort of magic vagina).
I just want to know what makes a female have this sense of entitlement?
Update:Curlie... It's a generalization because it is generally true.
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It's really hard to say. It's a really hard line to walk for us.
On one hand, we do want to be treated equally. It's hard to be told in the free world "you are more pathetic, worthless, not as strong". It is hard to be told that you are weaker than someone else. And to be quite frank, guys would feel the exact same way. It doesn't feel fair, and it makes me personally want to punch a hole in the wall because it means that I am limited, whereas most guys don't have to come to the crossroads of their own mortality until their 30/40's..
On the other hand, how do we get by in the current world we have, and have lived in for centuries? The best way for us to "be brutal", to "get by in this world", to climb the "corporate and social ladder" is to bs your way into it. Guys do the same thing, they just sleeze with money, false praise, etc.
On this same hand, look at our current dating world (and again, the way it's been done for centuries). Guy treats woman romantically, woman gets with man. Not to mention the current world encourages this behaviour: "I know deep down that I have no power, so instead I'm going to use the power I do have, which is to say no to men who a) don't meet my expectations, and b) are unable to provide for me in case this world is so bad I can't provide for myself", etc.
This is how I will personally feel sometimes on a base level when I look at all of the questions on here. In the long run, men want a woman they can come home to that will suck their cock. I understand why, no hating on it, likewise women want a man who will come home and ravish them as if they're both 20. It's a system that works.
*as a side note, I am in a very happy romantic relationship that looks to be long-term so far. (And I have been engaged in a 3 year relationship before). He treats me extremely well, but I always insist that he saves his money. I appreciate the little gifts, I feel like they show he's thinking about me. I have told him every step of the way to NOT spend a ridiculous amount of money on me, but a little bit, shows that he's trying to show me he cares about me." In the relationship before this one, I tried the whole "we're not going to spend money on each other", and IT WAS MISERABLE. He ended up being uncomfortable with PDA, and it was just such an unhealthy relationship for both of us.
I think a big sense of the entitlement comes from knowing that because we are physically weaker than men, the majority of the world sees us as less capable, weaker overall, helpless. It's an AWFUL feeling that doesn't exactly encourage you to boost your self-esteem and succeed in the corporate world. What do people do when they feel threatened? They attack back.
Thats a bit of a generalization... lol
Hmm i understand what your saying... its true, some women do claim to want to be treated equally and then they want special treatment, which i dont get at all. Personally i like to put in equal effort as the guy because that just builds the realationship up stronger. It is nice to feel special but i feel like it should be a mutual thing where the girl does something to make the guy feel special sometimes as well. I guess its just the girls you date because not all of us are like that.
1. Equal pay for equal work is a right.
2. Equal opportunity is fair between two people who are equally qualified, skilled/experienced, capable, etc. regardless of gender.
3. Hubby and I share the heavy lifting, often doing it together.
4. Hubby and I take turns to pay for the things like meals, vacations, gifts, etc. just as we did when going out together.
5. I can and will hold the door open for those coming behind me, regardless of gender. I will also open it for the disabled, parents with prams/children, the elderly, or just people with their hands full, etc. That is just good manners, and not a sexual privilege.
6. Hubby often prefers to drive, but if he wants a drink (I don't drink) then I am happy to drive him home.
Any one who drinks too much and gets behind the wheel regardless is breaking the law and does deserve to get punished for that behavior., before they kill/maime someone or themselves. Any one foolish enough to get in the car with a drunk driver, is just as foolish.
7. Saying "please" and "thank you" is again just good manners, regardless of gender. Too many people today forget to use good manners/common courtesy.
I love how the typical argument to criticism of women is "not all women are like that".
Not all women are like that.
p.s. Perhaps you should take a break from LMN.
You are hanging out with the wrong women.